Nigga

[Artis Silvester]

Work thread

[Cirie Fields]

I'm drunk and part me of
Think this challenge isn't really and I'm making it up

[Alicia Calaway]

One should pinpoint the distinct difference between the meaning of the term Nigger vs the various slang terms such as Nigga, Negro, and the occasional Nizzle... which I have been told is for shizzle.

[Artis Silvester]

This will either be amazing or incredibly lame, so I figured I'd suggest it anyway

We should write our entire debate as a rap.

[Artis Silvester]

And Osten should record/rap it

[Gervase Peterson]

I'm gonna sit out. Think I can't be around tomorrow anyway as I might be out. There's a possibility. Depends if the snow lifts or not.

[Alicia Calaway]

I would like to do this as a rap. Where we each have a part of the rap and hand it off to each other to make our points.

[Osten Taylor]

Jan 19, 2013 0:19:16 GMT -5 Artis Silvester said:

And Osten should record/rap it

I will do this for the good of the realm

[Nate Gonzalez]

just love when a nigga bring his whole crew
it’s just a bigger piece a cake for me to chew a hole through
Bring Your Whole Crew by DMX

Sold ya nigga, thought I told ya nigga
Crossover, slam dunk, game over nigga
The Ripper Strikes Back by LL Cool J

…and if you don’t know, now you know, nigga, uh
Juicy by The Notorious BIG

Hated on by most these niggas
Wit no cheese, no deals and no G’s, no wheels and no keys
Forgot about Dre by Dr. Dre

Cops give a damn about a negro
pull the trigger kill a nigga he’s a hero
Changes by Tupac Shakur

Quiet niggas will kill
Loud niggas talk shit
Them be the ones that get killed
It’s wild where we walk kid
Is you brave nigga
Is you a slave nigga
Is you a made nigga
Or is you a paid nigga
Quiet Niggas by Nas



Just some uses of the word in a song if you can change it around for the good of this challenge.

[Nate Gonzalez]

Just throwing some ideas out if anyone can make a rap out of it, and this is probably going to sound formal but I guess even as a rap, if we are to win this challenge we do have to take this seriously and give legit points on this, so yeah:


Say the word Nigger in public and you will probably get the stare down, not just from black's but by people across all races. Why? It's because that one word carries with it the history of thousands of black slaves, brings up feelings of discrimination, slavery, hatred, segregation and was used in a derogatory context in the olden days. Even in today's age, the word, if said by someone who isn't black, usually is said because the person is angry and means to use it in a derogatory form. Yeah, we can call white people "honkies" but you tell me, what sounds more offensive. A black person saying honky, or a white person saying nigger?

Let's look at the word at it's most basic form. Nigger is derived from a latin word that means black, and black always represents evil in society and culture for one reason or another. It always has, and always will. So if the word itself is derived from something that is viewed as bad, calling someone a nigger is pretty much saying they are "bad/evil" in a sense, and go back to the Jim Crow and the slave era, using blacks as slaves, treating them like animals, and thinking they are inferior to whites, and why? Because of the color of their skin, because the color of their skin is not white, it's not good, it's black, which is bad.

Now in my opinion, nobody should use the word, just because of the things associated with it, the history behind it, however, some blacks have taken it and tried to change it's meaning by using it as a word to bond with one another, a form of brotherly love, like "my nigga", but that is only the case when it's a black saying it to another back. No matter how you put it, a non-black saying the word nigger will never be taken in that context and will always be viewed as a racist comment.

Nigger, when it comes down to it, is a powerfully loaded word that carries with it a lot of meanings. Depending on who says it - the context changes. In today's society especially, the public image of the word "nigger" has been stigmatized to the point that no matter who says it, and where, people will stare at who said it, and will always take it to be said in a derogatory and insulting way.

Even now (with the exception of this post) I never actually type the word out itself, look back to my comment said in the challenge thread Ted posted, I put ** instead of the gg's? Why? I don't know, I just know it's a hate speech word and even I didn't want to use it. Words like nigger, and hate speech, in general, have an added dimension of meaning, a historical intent to cause harm, communicate a threat or symbolize a power dynamic, it just evokes too much bad history, history that was in the past and things people do not want to relive. We've moved past that stage in history, and I think it's about time we move past using loaded words like Nigger.





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So yeah... that definitely came out more like a freaking essay, haha. But maybe one of you can use some of those sentences and turn them into a rap?

[Osten Taylor]

If we're going the route of of people not saying the word it could be tricky to do a rap based on that.

[Roxy "TCB" Morris]

The only time white people should be allowed to say it is after winning a game of monopoly and saying "Whats up nigga"

[Crystal Cox]

I typed apt of Shiite up Ian's it's not here new but yo white peeps to they has ghouistory and to slavery? Yo that shit ain't right. Slave ships? Yo oi seen roots that shuit is so dunked up I don't even kk now sonny but Witt and sat

[Crystal Cox]

Yo when dem Crakad say daft shit it makes me mad as duck you they ain't allowed enjoyed whited got that hoistory of oppression

[Crystal Cox]

Niggaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa